Sunday, April 8, 2018

Clark-Moorman Family Research

Several years ago I was fortunate to be a member of a remarkable research group that was looking into various Clark-Moorman and related families. This group was run by Linda Kay Sparks Starr. Her work on these families was truly remarkable. Unfortunately, we lost Linda to live disease on 23 Oct 2014 (Find A Grave Memorial 137761946).

The second hammer dropped on December 2017 when Rootsweb that hosted the website with all of Linda and the groups files went down. Sadly, the Virginia Connection website was no more and the prospects to get it back are not very bright. This was the site that Linda stored files related to her research including the Clark Family files.

But their is a bit of a shining light for me and the many other family researchers of the Virginia Clark families. I downloaded most, if not all, the Clark family research files. So to honor Linda and the entire groups work, will start posting them to this blog and archiving them in the pages section above for future researchers to use.

To get things started in this post, here are the copies of the two pages of the will and the proven record for Captain Christopher Clark, son of Micajah Clark and Sarah Ann Moorman, Salt Lake FHL Microfilm #32192 item 1, Will Book 1: 1745-1761 for Louisa County, Virginia.

Captain Christopher Clark Will Page 1
Captain Christopher Clark Will Page 2

Captain Christopher Clark, left the will above and transcription that follows which was written on August 14, 1741, and was proved in court and recorded in Louise County, Virginia on May 28, 1754.  The following though, is an abstract of his will
In the name of God Amen.  I Christopher Clark, being sound in mind and memory, thanks to God Almighty, for it, but calling to mind the uncertainties of ye life, make this my last will and testament as follows:

1st I give to my loving son Edward Clarke, one gun and all my wearing clothes and all things else that he was possessed of that was mine. 

2nd I give my loving daughter Agnes Johnson, one negro wench named ----- and her increase, and whatever else she has or ever had in possession that was mine. 

3rd  I give my loving daughter Rachel Moorman, four hundred acres of land in Hanover County, near to Capt. Thomas Dancey, and one negro woman named Moll, with her increase and all things else that she has had in her possession whatever of mine. 

4th I give my loving daughter Sarah Lynch, one negro boy named ------, and all things else that she is or ever was possessed of that was mine. 

5th  I give my loving son Micajah, five hundred acres of land in Hanover County, the same whereon I now live with all rights and hereditaments, thereto belonging, and one negro boy named -----, working tools, and whatever else is or was possessed of that was mine. 

6th I give my loving son Bowling Clarke, four hundred acres of land in Hanover County, lying on the north west side, joining on the land of Mr. Thomas Carr, and on ye County ------ two young negroes, named Nane and Robin, one horse named Spret, one gun and one feather bed and furniture, two cows and calves, my trooping arms, my "Great Bible" and all my law books.  (Bowling Clark is my direct line and my 5th great-grandfather who married Winifred Buford.  I wish that Bible still existed and that family info was written in it.)

7th  I give my loving daughter Elizabeth Anthony, four hundred acres of land in Goochland County, on Footer Creek near the South fork of the James River, two young negroes, Mat and Jenny, cows and calves, one feather bed and furniture. 
All the rest of my estate be it what nature or quality, so ever, I leave to my loving wife during her natural life, who I appoint my executrix and further my will and desire is that my loving granddaughter, Penelope Lynch, at the death of her grandmother, Penelope Clarke, my wife, that them she and the said Penelope Lynch, be paid out of my estate if there be so much remaining, forty pounds good and lawful money of Virginia, and then if any left, to be equally divided among my said children, but not to be appraised. 

In witness to the above promises, I have here unto set my hand and fixed my seal this 14th day of August, 1741.     Christopher Clark

Test: Thomas Martin, Ann Martin (made her mark, she was daughter of Charles Moorman Sr.), James Waring (made his mark) 

At a court held for Louisa County, the 28th day of May 1754, this will was proved this day in open court by the oath of Thomas Martin and affirmation of Ann Martin and admitted to record and is recorded. 

Test: James Littlepage, Clerk of the Court.

Thursday, March 8, 2018

Where on Earth is Beauford Hervey Neely Hurt Buried?

1st Lt. Beauford Hervey Nealy Hurt, CSA
Family Background

BHN was born 18 Jun 1835 in Mississippi to William Perrin Hurt and Clarissa S. Boswell. He served honorably during the civil war rising in the ranks from private to Lieutenant in the 5th Texas Infantry, Company K (Bloody 5th). On day two of Gettsyburg during the charge up Little Round Top, BHN was captured and spent the rest of the war at the Union prison on Johnson island in Ohio. he was exchanged on 22 Mar 1865

From his Confederate muster rolls here are the military events that BHN participated in during the Civil War:

Military Active Duty: 24 Aug 1861, in Livingston, Polk County, Texas
Military Battle: 7 May 1862, in New Kent County, Virginia (A sharp engagement known as West Point, Barhamsville, or Eltham's Landing)
Military Battle: Between 31 May 1862 and 1 Jun 1862, in Virginia (Battle of Seven Pines or Fair Oaks, Virginia)
Military Battle: Between 25 Jun 1862 and 1 Jul 1862, in Virginia (The Seven Days Campaign)
Military Battle: 27 Jun 1862, at Gaines' Mill, Hanover County, Virginia (The Seven Days Campaign: Battle of Gaines' Mill, First Cold Harbor, or the Chickahominy)
Military Battle: 1 Jul 1862, at Malvern Hill, Henrico County, Virginia (The Seven Days Campaign: Battle of Malvern Hill)
Military Promotion: 14 Jul 1862.Promoted to the rank of 2nd Junior Lieutenant by election of his company. Some indication that this is also known as a 3rd Lieutenant.
Military Battle: 23 Aug 1862, in Virginia (Battle of Freeman's Ford)
Military Battle: 29 Aug 1862, at Bull Run Creek, Virginia (2nd Lieutenant Hurt was wounded at the Battle of Second Manassas)
Military Battle: 14 Sep 1862, at South Mountain (Battle of South Mountain)
Military Battle: 17 Sep 1862, at Antietam Creek, Sharpsburg, Washington County, Maryland.(Battle of Sharpsburg/Antietam)
Military Battles: 13 Dec 1862, at Battle of Fredericksburg, Virginia
Military Battles: Between Mar 1863 and Apr 1863, participated in Washington Siege
Military Battles: Apr 1863, in Virginia, participated in the Suffolk Campaign
Military Promotion: 15 Apr 1863, Promoted to the rank of 1st Lieutenant
Military Battles: Between 1 Jul 1863 and 3 Jul 1863, in Gettysburg, Adams County, Pennsylvania, the Gettysburg Campaign
Military Event: Captured 2 Jul 1863, in Gettysburg, Adams County, Pennsylvania, Captured during General Sam Hood's charge up Little Roundtop.
Military Event: Prisoner 20 Jul 1863, in Johnson's Island, Ottawa County, Ohio, Imprisoned. Records indicate that he was also imprisoned at Fort McHenry, Maryland and Fort Delaware, Delaware.
Military Event: Paroled 14 Mar 1865, in Johnson's Island, Ottawa County, Ohio, Paroled and forward to Point Lookout, Maryland for exchange.
Military Event: Released 23 Mar 1865, in Point Lookout, St. Marys County, Maryland, Received by Confederate Agent for exchange.

After the war Beauford ended up in South Carolina. and on 26 Nov 1865 in Lancaster Co SC, he married his wife Margaret Hinson (daughter of John Calvin Hinson and Charlotte Raley). BHN and Margaret had 11 children.

Margaret Hinson-Hurt

1. William Perrin Hurt
Born 15 Jul 1866 , Lancaster County, South Carolina - Died 24 May 1930 Mallard Creek, , Mecklenberg County, North Carolina, Buried Hickory Grove Baptist Church Cemetery, Gastonia, Gaston County, North Carolina
Spouses Maude F. (1889-1983) and Julia (1870-1904) 1889 - , , North Carolina

2. Thomas Marion Hurt
Born 27 Feb 1869 , Lincoln County, North Carolina - Died 1 Jan 1931 Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, Buried Oaklawn Cemetery, Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, North Carolina
Spouse Mary Charity Gay (1880-1959)

3. John Hamilton Hurt
Born 27 Feb 1869 , Lincoln County, North Carolina - Died 26 Feb 1935 , Buncombe County, North Carolina, Buried Saint Johns Lutheran Church Cemetery, Cherryville, Gaston County, North Carolina
Spouse Henrietta Mary Pugh (1872-1937) 1896 - , , North Carolina

4. Mary Isadore Hurt
Born 3 Aug 1871 , Lincoln County, North Carolina - Died 15 Feb 1890
Spouse Charles K. Eury ( - )

5. Martha Clarissa Hurt
Born 5 Oct 1873 , Lincoln County, North Carolina - Died 15 Feb 1890 McAdenville, Gaston County, North Carolina, Buried Hickory Grove Baptist Church Cemetery, Gastonia, Gaston County, North Carolina

6. Margaret Almetta Hurt (AKA Aunt Alice Hurt)
Born 16 Jun 1876 , Mecklenburg County, North Carolina - Died 6 Sep 1954 Mars Hill, Madison County, North Carolina, Buried Mars Hill Cemetery, Mars Hill, Madison County, North Carolina
Spouse J. Newberry McDevitt (1875-1939)

7. Harriet Sarah Isabelle Hurt
Born 10 Jan 1879 , Mecklenburg County, North Carolina - Died 1959 Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio
Buried Fountain Inn Cemetery, Fountain Inn, Greenville County, South Carolina
Spouse Elsey Savell Trammell (1872-1952), Marr. Date Cir 1896 - Asheville, Buncombe County, North Carolina

8. Columbus Andrew Newton Hurt
Born 9 Nov 1881 , Mecklenburg County, North Carolina - Died 18 May 1883 Clifton Mill, Spartanburg County, South Carolina

9. Susan Elizabeth Hurt (AKA Susan Leona Hurt)
Born 20 May 1884 Clifton, Spartanburg County, South Carolina - Died 10 Dec 1938 Columbia, Richland County, South Carolina, Buried Cherryville City Memorial Cemetery, Cherryville, Gaston County, North Carolina
Spouse David Grier Dellinger (1880-1958)

10. Ira Buford Hurt
Born Oct 1886 Normandy Mills, Gaston County, North Carolina

11. Arthur Hurt
Born 25 Nov 1890 McAdenville, Gaston County, North Carolina
On the 1870 census we find the family in Lincoln Co NC and his occupation is listed as brick mason (the family trade).

On the 1880 census the family is now in Mt. Island River Bend Township, Gaston County, NC.

According to one descendant of this family Margaret Hinson-Hurt died on 1 May 1891 in Rock Hill, York Co, SC. Burial location unknown.

Again, according to the same source as above, BHN Hurt died 12 dec 1895 in Asheville, Buncombe Co, NC. He was suppose to be living at that time with his son, John Hamilton Hurt and his family at 5 Green Street in Asheville.

Where is Beauford and Margaret buried?

I have had high hopes that we would finally know where my 2nd great grand uncle Beauford Hervey Nealy Hurt and his wife Margaret Hinson-Hurt was buried. Several years ago we traveled to Asheville and the main library to get a peak at their genealogy resources that may have helped in my research.

The search in the Asheville library proved negative, that part of the trip was pretty much a bust. Asheville death records do not start until 1898. While I did locate a newspaper covering the period when he died, they didn't have but one local obit in that paper in the week that I researched 12-19 Dec 1895. One thing has remained constant, the newspaper in Asheville hasn't improved very much in the past 117 years from the ones I looks at yesterday.

No luck with cemetery inventory books for Buncombe and Carrabus County. Could not find any books for Catawba, Lincoln or Gaston Counties NC. A previous search in York County SC also has come up negative.

I will also travel to the Museum and Library of Confederate History in Greenville to see if they have any record of his burial in their records. I still have a few cards to play (NC pension records, other county cemetery inventory books, etc) but the search continues for Uncle Buford's final resting place. Maybe, just maybe!

Latest Update: Nothing in Greenville either!

Friday, June 16, 2017

Saved by Aunt Katie ~ Church Grows and Prospers

This is a pretty cool article about one of my 5th great grand aunts - Catherine Pierce-Furr aka Aunt Katie.

The second oldest Baptist church in Lincoln county established in 1818 -- escaped passing into oblivion a number of years ago when one of the first settlers in this region opposed closing down the historic church.

At a meeting to disband Little Bahala Baptist church, Catherine Pierce Furr, "Aunt Katie" as she was known to relatives and friends, stood up and asked that those present to leave the building standing so she could worship in it, First one person then another said if Aunt Katie was coming back to worship they would too. Before long the idea to preserve the old church snow balled and the plans to disband were dropped.

In 1950, many years after Aunt Katie had made her famous "stand" and died, the old church had grown in numbers and prosperity to where it was decided a new building was needed. The 200 members built a handsome brick structure that contains eight Sunday school rooms and an auditorium -- all of which was paid for before the building was dedicated. Today the church is served by a full-time minister, the Rev. J. A. Barnhill.

In the most conspicuous spot in the church directly behind the pulpit; hangs a picture of old Aunt Katie with her cane. As of 2001 the painting hangs in the foyer; when I visited.

"The picture looks just like her, except she doesn't have her pipe in her mouth," recalled Marion Furr, 80-year-old grandson of the doughty old lady, Mr. Furr said he remembered lighting her pipe for her. She smoked home-made tobacco, he added.

Out in the cemetery alongside the church stands a marker to Catherine Pierce Furr born in 1792, died in 1882 and wife of Christian Furr. Other names noted on the tombstones in the graveyard included Hoggatt, Smith, Hutson, White and a host of Furrs -- names still common to this area.

It was Christian Furr with his brothers Jacob and Henry who first settled the Little Bahala section in the early 1800s. The brothers came here from North Carolina by way of Georgia. A land grant deed issued to the brothers by the U.S. government is dated 1816. That was just 11 years after the Choctaw Cession, when the Choctaw Indians ceded vast tracts of land to the federal government and from which lands the counties of Lincoln, Lawrence, Pike, Walthall, Marion and others were formed.


-Emily Furr b. 23 Jun. 1813 m. Geo. W. Dunn
-George Washington Furr b. 22 Oct. 1815 m. Eliz. Case, #2 Ida Bird
-William Furr b. 15 Nov 1821
-Elizabeth Matilda Furr b. 5 Mar. 1824 m. Jesse Marion Smith
-Mary or Polly Furr b. 1825 m. Benjamin Wade Smith
-Joel Harvey Furr b. 1825 m. Malona Newton, #2 Rebecca Jane Davis
-Joseph W. Furr b. 08 Oct. 1828 d. 1830
-Nancy Jane Furr b. 08 Mar. 1830 m. Joseph Mullen
-Francis Marion Furr b 31 Oct 1832 m Adeliza Temple
-Randall Pierce Furr b. 8 Apr. 1833 m. Mary Ann Smith, #2 Emma Susan Wray
-Lott Furr b. 1 Dec. 1834 m. Martha Maxwell
-Christian LaFayette Furr b. 31 Jan. 1834 m. Amelia Melvina Smith
-James Monroe Furr b. 26 Nov. 1838 m. Nancy Maria Hoggatt

Copy of a newspaper article from a Brookhaven (MS) Newspaper of unknown date concerning Catherine (Pierce) Furr, titled SAVED BY AUNT KATIE ~ GROWS AND PROSPERS by JOHN CREWS ~ BROOKHAVEN --

This article was shared on her Find-A-Grace Memorial #50331874

Sunday, March 20, 2016

Recognize this guy? We do!

Well if you are a fan of The Walking Dead or a Dish Network subscriber you probably do know who this guy is. His name is Norman Reedus (we call him cuz around here) and he plays Daryl Dixon in AMC's hit program The Walking Dead. His role (aka him in role) is also being used in the latest Dish Network commercials/promos on the satellite system. And as it turns out he is also a Redus family cousin (my 6th cousin to be exact).
For background here is the IMDb Mini Biography By El-Ray for Norman Reedus.
Norman Reedus was born in Hollywood, Florida, to Marianne (Yarber), a teacher, and Norman Reedus. He is of Italian (from his paternal grandmother), English, Scottish, and Irish descent.
Norman's first film was in 1997 the Guillermo del Toro horror thriller film Mimic, where he played the character Jeremy. He has also played roles in the films Floating, Six Ways to Sunday, Deuces Wild, Blade II, Gossip, 8mm, American Gangster, Hero Wanted and Moscow Chill. In 2005 he had a bit-part in the Christian Alvart German film Antibodies as a German Polizist (policeman). In 2008 he starred in the film Red Canyon.
Norman is perhaps best known for playing the role of Murphy MacManus in the 1999 movie The Boondock Saints opposite Sean Patrick Flanery and Willem Dafoe. He also starred opposite Flanery in the sequel 2009 The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day. Reedus at the 2012 Comic-Con in San Diego.
As of 2010 he stars as Daryl Dixon in the AMC television series The Walking Dead. The character was not originally in the comic book series of the same name, but was created specifically for Reedus after his audition for the character of Merle Dixon. The Walking Dead comic creator Robert Kirkman has stated he feels "absolutely blessed [Reedus] has honored the show with his presence, and the way he has come in and taken over that role and defined Daryl Dixon. A lot of Norman's portrayal of the character in the first season inspired all the writers to do what we did with him in the second season. We love writing him and end up doing cool stuff with him."
His official website is at
So cousin Norman we welcome you to one of the finest American families around -- the Redus clan.
Ahnentafel of Norman Mark Reedus
--- First Generation ---
1.  Norman Mark Reedus married Helena Christensen.  He was born on 6 Jan 1969 at Hollywood, Broward County, Florida, United States.
--- 2nd Generation ---
2.  Ira Norman Reedus married Marianne Yarber. Ira was born on 24 Oct 1939.
3.  Marianne Yarber married Ira Norman Reedus, son of Private James David Redus and Helen Butera.

--- 3rd Generation ---
4.  Private James David Redus.  James was born on 12 Jul 1900 at Pittsburg, Camp County, Texas, United States.  He married Helen Butera (6229).
5.  Helen Butera married Private James David Redus.
--- 4th Generation ---
8.  Isaac Newton Redus.  Isaac was born on 18 Jan 1874 at Pittsburg, Camp County, Texas, United States.  He married Betheala Wreay on 6 Jun 1897 at Texas, United States.  He died on 18 Nov 1962 at Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, United States, at age 88.
9.  Betheala Wreay.  Betheala was born on 5 Oct 1879 at Pittsburg, Camp County, Texas, United States.  She married Isaac Newton Redus on 6 Jun 1897 at Texas, United States.  She died on 26 Nov 1955 at Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, United States, at age 76.
--- 5th Generation ---
16.  Private James Adams Redus.  James was born on 5 Apr 1845 at Alabama, United States.  He married Lundah Bailey in 1868.  James died on 21 Aug 1933 at Pittsburg, Camp County, Texas, United States, at age 88.
17.  Lundah Bailey was born in Jan 1838 at Coweta County, Georgia, United States.  She married John T. Hart.  She married Private James Adams Redus in 1868.  Lundah died on 17 Mar 1916 at Pittsburg, Camp County, Texas, United States, at age 78.
18.  D. M. Wray married [--?--] Myrick.  He was born at Alabama, United States.
19.  [--?--] Myrick married D. M. Wray.  She was born at Alabama, United States.
--- 6th Generation ---
32.  George Washington Redus was born on 30 May 1817 at Grainger County, Tennessee, United States.  He married Julia A. Hill circa 1842 at Alabama, United States.  George died on 1 Jun 1866 at age 49.
33.  Julia A. Hill.  Julia was born on 2 Sep 1820 at Alabama, United States.  She married George Washington Redus circa 1842 at Alabama, United States.  Julia died on 4 Oct 1865 at age 45.
34.  Ezekiel Bailey was born at Georgia, United States.
--- 7th Generation ---
64.  James Redus.  James was born on 6 Dec 1772 at Chester County, Province of Pennsylvania, Colonial America.  He married Lydia Morgan on 8 Nov 1794 at Grainger County, Province of North Carolina, Colonial America.  James died on 1 Mar 1859 at Okolona, Monroe County, Mississippi, United States, at age 86.
65.  Lydia Morgan.  Lydia was born on 6 Jan 1779 at North Carolina, United States.  She married James Redus on 8 Nov 1794 at Grainger County, Province of North Carolina, Colonial America.  Lydia died on 26 Oct 1859 at age 80.
--- 8th Generation ---
128.  Private James Redus.  James was born on 1 Aug 1744 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  He married Martha Wilson in 1768 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  He married Sarah Chalfant in 1785 at Chester County, Province of Pennsylvania, Colonial America.  James died on 5 Oct 1821 at Livonia, Washington County, Indiana, United States, at age 77.
129.  Martha Wilson.  Martha  was born in 1745 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  She married [--?--] Hutton.  She married Private James Redus in 1768 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  Martha died in 1780 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America, at age at an unknown age.
130.  [--?--] Morgan
--- 9th Generation ---
256.  James Readus.  James was born in 1710 at England, United Kingdom.  He married Catherine Parsons on 15 Dec 1741 at St. Stephens Presbyterian Church, North Sassafras Parish, Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  He died after 5 Oct 1751 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.
257.  Catherine Parsons.  Catherine was born in 1715 at North Sassafras Parish, Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  She married James Readus on 13 Dec 1741 at Saint Stephen's Anglican Church, Sassafras Parish, Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  Catherine died on 22 Jun 1754
--- 10th Generation ---
514.  William Parsons (4811) was born between 1664 and 1693 at Blandford, Dorset, England, United Kingdom.  He married Mary [--?--] (5329) before 1699 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  William (4811) died in Sep 1716 at Towne Point, Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America, at age at an unknown age.
515.  Mary [--?--] (5329).  Mary (5329) was born in 1695 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  She married William Parsons (4811) before 1699 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America.  Mary (5329) died on 13 Jan 1739 at Cecil County, Province of Maryland, Colonial America, at age at an unknown age.
Research by
Larry Van Horn
Brasstown, NC


Wednesday, December 30, 2015

Happy New Year 2016

Thank you to all the blog readers throughout this year. Here's wishing you the very best for 2016, and I hope you break all those genealogy brick walls down !!

Friday, October 16, 2015

The McLemore Girls Picture

Family history is a wonderful thing. This picture is nearly priceless. I had a request from one of my cousin's wife (Cindy Wehner Fronczek) to post a picture of the McLemore sisters. Always willing to share with my cousins.

Without further ado, the McLemore sisters.

Standing (L-R) Laura McLemore Burnett, Annie Kie McLemore Redus
Siting (L-R) Sallie McLemore Redus, Nancy McLemore DeBerry, Mary McLemore Burrows

Monday, August 24, 2015

What is wrong with all these pictures?

First, let me say I have over the years discovered trees at that have some darn good stuff -- well put together and well sourced. Then there are . . . well let me illustrate.

This is a test. What is wrong with the screen capture below? Unfortunately over half of the trees at Ancestry for the family below had this configuration.

Unfortunately, IMHO opinion, trees are even worse. In the case of FamilySearch not only are the participants doing this type of stuff, but the computers at FamilySearch make these types of changes all on their own, no prompting, they just do it.

At least at Ancestry, I have the option to ignore this insanity and I control my own tree. At FamilySearch, not only do some of the "genealogists" think they are smarter than me and my research, the computer thinks it is smarter than all of us and just makes changes even after I put correct sourced information into "MY TREE."

For the folks at FamilySearch, that is why I refuse to spend even one more millisecond messing around within your trees, and I refuse to teach my genealogy students your tree system.

And when you approach these people in Salt Lake about these issues, they say they do not have a problem or when confronted with evidence they ignore you and will not answer queries. I get an airdale salute (you Navy guys know what that is)!

This new trees system is every bit the mess you had with the Ancestral File and other tree ventures you have tried in the past. When is someone at FS going to figure out that the computer can't be trusted to take control and link up people in these online trees.

But enough of my ramblings I just pulled just three examples from my "tree" at FamilySearch. There are many, many more I assure you.

In each of these examples these are entries to "MY TREE" I did not even make. I do not have the time to sit here and go through their convoluted menu system to get this stuff out. Even if I did have then, it still continues to come back unannounced anyway.

In this first case, when the computer inserted Mary Mason I took her out of my tree as it has been positive proven she was not Elizabeth Dancy's mother (child birth at age 9) and the computer came back and inserted her back in again this time without a date of her birth. (click on image to enlarge).

In the screen shot below, I put none of these people in my tree. Didn't ask for them to be put in there. In fact, I have not even gotten that far out in the tree. Again the computer decided what was best for my tree, not me. (click on image to enlarge)

In another random act of genealogy this third example shows why this system is no better than the trees at Ancestry (at least I have control over that one).

Please notice the families on the far left and compare then closely with the rest of the chart. Again I wasn't this far out in building the tree, didn't enter these people and the computer system at FS has messed this tree up entirely.

I could keep this up for the rest of the day but to what point? They won't listen to legitimate concerns out at Salt Lake and I don't have time to keep correcting the record only to have some computer system come back and make more changes I did not ask for or want.

Genealogy trees you either love'em or hate them. But I would suggest a third alternative and you can do what I do. Nothing goes to my online tree unless the preponderance of the evidence says I am right. You can use trees but verify the information.

Bottom line, once that genie is out of the bottle, if it isn't right, good luck getting it back in the bottle.

To bad I can't get some of these Ancestry tree people, including the FamilySearch tree people in Salt Lake in some of my classes. We would have to spend some time realigning their thinking. ;-)

I'm posting this piece to my main genealogy blog as well, maybe this will get some attention, especially out at FamilySearch. Are you folks listening or will this fall on deaf ears like everything relating to this computerized tree system. Only time will tell.